Why hustle won’t scale

Marcel Santilli
Former CMO at Deepgram and Scale AI

Jason Gong
Former YC founder, Growth at Affirm, Bardeen

Anna Baird
Board Member, former KPMG Partner, CFO, COO and CRO

A tactical masterclass on replacing hustle with systems to scale go-to-market.
TL;DR
Anna Baird lays out an operating system for founders: build a clear “rhythm of the business” with goals, KPIs, and cadenced reviews; kill silos through intentional relationship‑building; stay maniacally focused on the core customer pain; and stop doing one‑off custom deals that derail product and drain resources. Trust leaders, verify with dashboards, and take calculated risks to grow.
Key Points
- Focus beats frenzy: Fire drills and shiny objects don’t scale; align work to goals and measure monthly with agreed KPIs and milestones.
- Operating rhythm: Define strategies per company priority, review weekly/bi‑weekly/monthly, and use dashboards so CEOs don’t micromanage.
- Relationship Bank: Proactively “deposit” cross‑team relationships so you have trust when you need to say no or ask for help.
- Custom deals trap: Big‑logo one‑offs consume all resources and create endless “mouse & cookie” requests; say no even to tempting single‑shot money.
- Trust, then verify: Give leaders rope, require transparent metrics; transition people when company outgrows their competency. Hire slow, fire fast.
- Budget vs intellectual buy‑in: Validate urgency and willingness to pay, not just “cool idea” feedback.
- Vision vs market: Build for the core workflow and pain customers will pay for; revenue and funding follow focus.
- AI reality: Keep one eye on customer pain and one on fast‑moving tech to avoid getting disrupted; incorporate new capabilities quickly.
- Risk matters: Growth requires stepping outside comfort; recent conservatism is stalling companies—take calculated risks to advance.
Memorable Lines
- “Fire drills do not scale. Shiny objects don’t scale.”
- “Your relationships are a bank—make deposits before withdrawals.”
- “Don’t take the big money that’s just once.”
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